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Lou asks a reluctant Mary to find him a date for a work function. When she can't find anyone, she agrees to be his date But when Lou comes to pick up Mary, she can't go since she's il, and Rhoda agrees to fill in for Mary. At first, Lou's leery. but afterwar@, he admits he had a good time, so much so he wants to ask her out again. She accepts. The second date leads to a third and more. Although both Lou and Rhoda see what they're doing as just having fun together, Lou wonders if everyone knows something he himself doesn't yet know. Meanwhile, Ted starts coloring his hair, and believes the change is so subtle, no one will notice.

Valerie Harper's last apperance as a regular cast member.

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    • Author: ndup
    Lou needs a date for a dinner meeting and asks Mary to come with him. When she gets sick, Rhoda agrees to go along. They have a nice time and begin to do things together. Of course, all the office gossip makes it really uncomfortable. Normally Lou wouldn't care, but this seems to bother him. It's totally clear that nothing is going on, although there are some teasing moments when the audience isn't so sure. Eventually things come to a head and the conclusion is quite nice. There is one ongoing visual joke. Ted starts using a hair product that slowly darkens his hair a little at a time. Every time he enters the studio, his hair is a bit darker. Pretty funny.
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    • Author: melody of you
    If Lou never had any secret feelings for Rhoda until this episode, why was Rhoda allowed in the newsroom so often?

    This was VH's last episode of TMTMS before moving on to RHODA. How much time elapsed between the events of this episode and Rhoda's return to New York? If Rhoda was going to leave for New York immediately, why did she make a date to meet Lou secretly at a hockey game? I didn't know it before rediscovering the delightful "Mary and Rhoda: Love and Laughs" article in TIME, but the hockey date was a sweet allusion to Valerie's father's former profession.

    This was perhaps an introduction to the new, sentimental Rhoda of the early episodes of her own series--the romantic bud that died and later fully flowered in Valerie Hogan, however different the two characters were otherwise.
  • Episode complete credited cast:
    Mary Tyler Moore Mary Tyler Moore - Mary Richards
    Edward Asner Edward Asner - Lou Grant
    Valerie Harper Valerie Harper - Rhoda Morgenstern
    Gavin MacLeod Gavin MacLeod - Murray Slaughter
    Ted Knight Ted Knight - Ted Baxter
    Betty White Betty White - Sue Ann Nivens
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