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Three Texas teens hope to make a break for it and escape their dead-end existence in a cotton-mill town but get sucked into the seedy underbelly of organized crime when one of them steals from the wrong man.
Three Texas teens hope to make a break for it and escape their dead-end existence in a cotton-mill town but get sucked into the seedy underbelly of organized crime when one of them steals from the wrong man.

Trailers "Bad Turn Worse (2013)"

Actor William Devane made the suggestion that his character should be wearing a bathrobe. The directors loved the idea and ran with it.

Actress Mackenzie Davis was recommended for the role of Sue to the Producers by director Drake Doremus (Like Crazy) because of her performance in his film Breathe In.

Actor Mark Pellegrino (Giff) and director Zeke Hawkins first met on the set of the film Capote. Mark was playing the role of Dick Hickock and Zeke worked for Capote director Bennett Miller.

The hands of the narrator during the film's imaginary heist scene are actually the hands of Cinematographer Jeff Bierman who was operating the camera during the shot.

The actors playing The Wolfsons in the film are actually the grandparents of the film's Producer Justin Duprie.

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    • Author: Peras
    This film is an example of that very specific sub-genre, the Texas neo-noir. That American state seems to have all the right ingredients for modern noir, with its sun-baked, dusty, dead-end towns, restless people in them trying to get out of them and places seemingly so remote that the law is run by its own set of rules. We Gotta Get Out of This Place is certainly a movie that exists in the twilight world of this sub-genre. Its story revolves around three young people caught up in a situation. Bobby and Sue plan to leave for good to go to college, while B.J. chooses the faster route of crime. He steals money from a local thug and all three of them pay the price for his actions. They are coerced into stealing money from an even bigger gangster putting themselves in grave danger in the process.

    This product of the American indie scene is typified by a fine script. It's helped even further by being acted out by a talented cast of actors. A couple have some pedigree but the three kids are all impressive newcomers. The name actors are Mark Pellegrino, whom I remember from being the bungling hit-man from Mulholland Drive (2001), in this picture he's still a violent criminal but a good deal more threatening; we also have veteran William Devane, star of several 70's classics like Marathon Man (1976), who here has no more than a cameo role. But its arguably the three younger actors who make the most impact, namely Mackenzie Davis as Sue, Logan Huffman as the reckless B.J. and finally the young Chris Penn lookalike Jeremy Allen White as the dim-witted but good natured Bobby. The strengths of this film lie predominantly with the dialogue and performances, both of which are impressive. The cinematography is often fine too with some dusky shots of wind turbine landscapes being particularly standout, while the moody score put me in mind of the one used in Blood Simple (1984) and any comparison to that masterpiece of the Texas neo-noir sub-genre is of course a very good thing. The story itself is maybe a little over-familiar for those who have seen their share of neo-noirs and it doesn't necessarily pan out into anything too unexpected by the end. Still, that doesn't change the fact that this is still well worth your time and is a quality product overall.
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    • Author: Naktilar
    The film opens with a quick and easy robbery. Then come the bright-yellow seventies-style credits. However do not be fooled, whilst film-quality may also suggest a seventies setting, the only other similarity with that era, is a brooding foreboding and grim realism.

    The film is set in modern-day Texas. Earlier scenes are light but as the film progresses grimmer and grittier adult scenes make this uncomfortable viewing that goes right up to the edge. This is not a film for the faint-hearted.

    The story revolves around three young adults who are caught up in the aftermath of the robbery. They become involved in the criminal underworld and the situation soon escalates.

    This film is a modern film-noir so as is typical for the genre there are lots of twists and betrayals. Some plot twists are shown to us the audience before they are experienced by the characters, thus giving suspense, others are not.

    Mark Pellegrino has a meaty role, rather like that of James Franco in 'Homefront' (2013) or even 'Tommy' in 'Goodfellas' (1990). The younger Logan Huffman plays a character like 'Tommy' in 'The Butterfly Effect' (2004). Both convince in their roles. Mr Pellegrino's character is cold, even while he pretends to be friendly and playful. Mr Huffman's character by contrast is a brooding presence. His mental machinations and robust physique make him intimidating and scarily unpredictable.

    Mackenzie Davis and Jeremy Allen White play two college-student-types who get caught up in the mayhem. The two young thespians act their socks off as they struggle in the situations their characters are plunged into.

    There is also good support from Jon Gries. Veteran actor William Devane, in a cameo, got it just right, and shows, as he did in 'Marathon Man' (1976), that a small role can be played to make an effective and lasting impression.

    The film was directed by Simon and Zeke Hawkins. They captured great scenes of the flat Texas landscape as well as taking scary and tense scenes to the very limit of the audience's endurance. They should be rightly proud of this full-length film. Hopefully, we will see many more films from this talented pair in the future.

    If you liked the 2012 films 'Mud' and 'Everybody Has a Plan', or the 2013 films 'Cold Comes the Night', 'The Counsellor', 'Love Is the Perfect Crime' or 'Homefront', then this similarly dark film-noir will appeal to you.

    A grim and gritty 9/10 but a strong stomach is needed.
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    • Author: Dynen
    I saw this film at the Toronto Film Festival and it was without question, the finest film there. I hope this film gets wide theatrical release! For first time directors the Hawkins Brothers have produced a very tight film that treats the viewer with respect. The cinematography is stunning, particularly given that the film is shot in a rather bleak part of Texas. The film was intense from start to finish. Mark Pellegrino has taken the world of bad guys to a new level. He's a local for sure, but was an original. Quite frankly, all of this cast was top rate. While there are three relatively new actors involved, I expect that we shall be seeing them all down the road - and I would certainly include the directors in this statement, as well. If you get the chance, see this gem.
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    • Author: Jugami
    I seldom write reviews - especially about forgettable films, but I can't understand why every prior review for this film is either so adulating or lambasting. I thought the film wasn't that bad, but it's not all that great either.

    It's not a nonstop adventure like "30 Minutes or Less." Its pacing is more like that of "Near Dark" or "A Simple Plan." And the pacing very fits well with the story and its setting.

    The script was pretty well-thought out and well-written, if not exactly moving or memorable. The direction and cinematography were excellent. They used the flat, bland, decaying Texas coastal plains marvelously - kind of like John Ford used to use the American west. When the film is over, you may forget the characters, but you'll remember the scenery.

    Mark Pellegrino has fun with his role as a charming and self-wise sociopath. William Devane makes the most of his minute on camera.

    Mackenzie Davis affects more of a middle Tennessee accent than a south Texas accent but at least she tried. Logan Huffman sounds just like Bruno Kirby and somebody apparently thought he would be more believable as a Texan if he simply called everybody "Hoss" or "Podner." I doubt that annoys anybody outside of Texas (I see most of this movies rave reviews came from Canada, Scotland and Ireland) but sure annoys the hell out of people who know better.

    But my biggest complaint, however, is that I haven't heard so many racial insults since "Django." Again, maybe this is the stereotypical Texas that people elsewhere want to imagine, but people in south Texas haven't spoken like that since the '40s or '50s. There's so much intermingling of ethnicities in that area that to think or speak like that would offend the overwhelming majority of ones' family and friends.

    Now granted, fictional stories deserve a wide latitude for artistic license, and people involved in nefarious activities can be offensive and without conscience. But so much of the characterization was simply cartoonish and ultimately I think that undermined the film.
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    • Author: Doath
    "We gotta get out of this place" ... that's the title I saw this movie with at a Festival. It's a nice little thriller, where the inciting incident can be smelled a mile away (at least). If you can get over that bump, you are in for a nice little ride. It has a few nice twists and turns along the way.

    The acting is good enough and the movie has a nice pace. Are there flaws/clichés along the way? Yes there are, but like with the initial bump, they can be overlooked to a certain extent. Relationships are almost drawn and are heading to an obvious (from the start) direction. But if it's done right ... like here, you can forgive the movie. If you do, is up to you
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    • Author: allegro
    Well I don't know whose rating these movies so high but must be someone involved with the production and on IMDb. Pathetic.

    One of THE worst movies I have seen this year, couldn't wait for it to end.

    Simple plot - boy steals money, no reason why, spends the money stupidly in some bars (not the real underworld mind you) and nothing amis here just some frat boys handing out in a country bar.

    Nothing happens in the middle of the movie, it's a love triangle. Anytime its 2 dudes and a girl, love triagle presumed. Well this one doesn't disappoint.

    Bad dudes are non-existent in thie movie, so is acting generally - mostly just sitting around and boring dialogue.

    Who rates this piece of crap 6+

    Give your head a shake, one of THE worst movies I have ever seen.
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    • Author: mym Ђудęm ęгσ НuK
    *****May Contain Spoilers***** The tale tells of a story that takes place in a small town in Texas where there isn't much to do except to figure out how to leave town or to get into some trouble, and that pretty much describes our three coming-of-age main characters. Sue & Bobby would like nothing better than to leave this town in favor of college, and BJ knows that college just isn't for him and manages instead to get into trouble with some of the wrong people. BJ steals money from a man named Giff and because of this Bobby, Sue, and BJ all end up all on the hook for it. Giff wants them to commit another crime in order to make up for this one, and if they don't come through they will have to answer to Giff's boss who's known simply as 'Big Red'.

    Well people these first time filmmakers brought to Toronto not only a well-crafted story, but a quality looking film as well. These brothers collaborated extremely well with director of photography Jeff Bierman, and together they expertly capture the look, feel, and texture of small town Texas. In "We Gotta Get Out of this Place" they show you these long, wide, and barren shots of literally nothing to do, and all of this adds to the main characters main problem of seclusion. Even in the film's beginning the absence of a musical score just compounds to the loneliness and solitude of this location. They all must have known exactly what kind of visual tale that they wanted to tell, and that's because the end result is very smooth for the viewer. Other complements go out to these two brothers for their very cool use of transitioning the film from one scene to the next, and they also made use of good lighting, shadows, and silhouettes throughout the movie.

    This now takes me onto the performances, which by the way are all above average. The three main players are all solid, but I will start with the film's villain and best performance in "We Gotta Get Out of this Place". The film's main antagonist is Giff, and he is brought to vivid life by the very talented Mark Pellegrino. He creates a scary southern low-life creep, but whenever he is on screen you can't help but give him your full attention. He's scary and funny all at the same time, and throughout the feature he has many priceless lines that he delivers with a perfect hint of "Deliverance". On the flip side Jeremy Allen White plays Bobby and is the film's central and lead character. He more than pulls off an innocence and charm that make him very easy to side with. He also gives us a sense of always wanting to do the right thing if the right thing is even a possibility considering their current situation, and put simply you can't help but really like the kid.

    The other two leads are BJ & Sue played by Logan Huffman & Mackenzie Davis. BJ is above average as the troublemaker of the three, and this young actor brings an edge to this person that makes you never fully like or accept him. He is very credible as an actor and shows a wide array of emotions in the character of BJ. Finally Sue is the girl of the love triangle, and is the driving force of what the other two guys will do going forward. However I can honestly say that she is so much more than a love interest, and provides the film with a sexy and solid passion that proves very effective. She continually strives to better herself and that is the motivation for the film's title "We Gotta Get Out of this Place".

    Now seeing so many films back-to-back day after day in Toronto…well sometimes you go into the theater not knowing what the movie is even about or who's in it. This fell into that category and was a welcomed and pleasant surprise of a crime thriller, and that genre is not easy to pull off. This film is like "Blood Simple" meets "Last Man Standing" meets "Twilight", and what could've been a real missed opportunity is anything but. With a fraction of a Hollywood budget and almost no known stars the Brothers Hawkins have done a fantastic job taking an already tight script, and turning it into an even tighter film.

    Okay just a few minor 'Nick-Picking' issues to touch base with. The first is why did they have to give us the standard "Twilight" love triangle because that has been done to death…no pun intended. Next there were more than a few times where convenience seemed to be the driving force of the script, but you'll have that I guess as well. Then there were 2 montages that I felt did nothing but add length to the feature, and at least one of them could've been cut in favor of more screen time for William Devane.

    At right around 1 hour and 45 minutes "We Gotta Get Out of this Place" was much better than average, and I would love to see this film get some recognition. I absolutely love when filmmakers manage to get a lot out of a little, and that is the definition of what we have here. A solid crime drama with rich and believable characters all wrapped up in a great looking film…well I don't know what else you could ask for? Nick's Reel Screen Review is a very highly recommended 3 ½ stars out of 4, and that's for the crime thriller "We Gotta Get Out of this Place".
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    • Author: Malarad
    Now, this is disappointing only because it seemed like it was going to go in more interesting places. The first act is definitely stronger than what follows. Everything before it turned into this crime thriller really, really worked. Its pacing was really well balanced and it seemed like, I don't know, I would be more original? Everything after the money really was just another run-of-the-mill crime story. The acting is fine, Pellegrino is a lot of fun, but really, less and less interesting as it went on. The climax is all kinds of predictable, hokey, cheesy, clichéd, overdone... you name it. Despite the contrivances, I still liked it. The pacing is really well done and it has some nice moods.
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    • Author: Maldarbaq
    If you think the title is strange wait until you actually see the film. First of all, the synopsis for Bad Turn Worse is not entirely accurate. It's not three young adults fleeing small town Texas to find a better life, it's actually just two.

    One of our main characters, B.J. (Logan Huffman) is losing both his girlfriend, Sue (MacKenzie Davis) and best friend, Bobby (Jeremy Allen White) to college. So, he takes them both out for a wild night of partying and drinking at a local bar and hotel to celebrate.

    However, in Bad Turn Worse, nothing is really what it seems. ***SPOILER ALERT*** The money B.J. is freely throwing all over the place for his girl and best friend is actually stolen from his boss (or is it?) And Bobby and Sue? Well, there's more to their leaving than just college. What unfolds is a big series of plot twists that could have been pretty good - except the horrible script by Dutch Southern and mediocre to bad acting got in the way. ***END SPOILER***

    This is one strange movie, I'll say that again. For one, the plot tends to drag along with all the enthusiasm of a turtle, and a good deal of what happens seems illogical. Why writers make these characters so clueless, especially characters who are supposed to be intelligent, is mind-boggling. It doesn't help that most of the performances were dry - as if the cast conceded early on that this will never be anything more than a B-rated film. I guess some of the blame can be shifted to the directors, Zeke and Simon Hawkins. While they do an excellent job capturing the gritty feel of rural Texas, they don't do so well with directing the cast. Dialogue between characters is also pretty horrible. Often, a character will start rambling on with some parable that takes up entirely too much time; guess the writers intended for these stories to be awe-inspiring but they only leave the viewer confused. Little of these heart-to-heart chats actually tie in well with what's going on in Bad Turn Worse, which actually ends with a references back to one of these little parables/speeches (or whatever the writer wants to call them) that happened early in the film. Let me tell you, it wasn't an effective strategy.

    Anyway, I give it a 4 out of 10 because I think the plot, though strange, was overall pretty good. With some cleaning up of the script and better directing/acting, Bad Turn Worse could have been a winner. Oh, and maybe had they gave it a better name, too...
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    • Author: Onoxyleili
    I LOVE this movie. Saw it in Toronto at TIFF and then again at AFI Fest in LA, and both times was wowed by everything about this film. The tone, the setting, the characters, the acting, the music - it's a greasy, gritty, Texas neo-noir thriller that has impeccable style. Gotta say too that Mark Pellegrino plays one of the all-time great bad guys in this film - probably my favorite performance of his. And on top of it all, it's a perfect example of the power that indie filmmakers have, and should be an inspiration to others who want to make a film on very little money and a lot of heart. See this movie whenever you get the chance. I know I can't wait to own this one.
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    • Author: Arlelond
    One day someone was listening to the Steve Miller Band's "Take the Money and Run" and thought they could make it into a feature length film. They took the character of Billy Joe and shortened it to BJ and made Bobbie Sue into two characters, Bobby and Sue. The writer then tossed these characters into a plot about stolen money and young lovers on the run.

    I'm ok with people wearing their influences on their sleeves but unfortunately you get more pleasure from the three or so minutes running time of Steve Miller's song than you can extract from this train wreck of a movie.

    The obvious joke is the film's title doubles as its review. This is bad enough that it deserves nothing more than the obvious joke.
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    • Author: Silvermaster
    B.J. (Logan Huffman), his book-loving girlfriend Sue (Mackenzie Davis) and best friend Bobby (Jeremy Allen White) live in a small Texas town. Sue and Bobby are looking to leave for college. B.J. is acting up. He's jealous of them leaving and angry at their unspoken sexual chemistry. He had stolen money from their local criminal boss Giff (Mark Pellegrino). Giff starts beating on the Mexican guard and Bobby falsely confesses to the theft. Giff kills the guard anyways. Bobby is shocked that it turns out to be $20k from Big Red (William Devane) and Giff wants Bobby to repay it. Giff tells them to rob Big Red.

    I like the young threesome. I'm a big fan of Jeremy Allen White in Shameless. Mackenzie Davis has a powerful energy about her. Logan Huffman grows on me with his creepiness. I do wonder why either of them likes B.J. but that's not out of the question in a small town. My first problem is Bobby's false confession. Bobby is not an idiot. He knows it's at a minimum $2000 and he couldn't pay that back himself. At first, I thought he was related to Giff and therefore not afraid of being killed by him. It simply doesn't make any sense other than the need to advance the plot. It could have been done in a different way. The Mexican could have falsely fingered Bobby before being killed. B.J. could have double-crossed Bobby. I don't buy Bobby volunteering to take the fall. I still like the threesome and I love the pulpy hard-boiled noirish style but it's hard for me to overcome the misstep.
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    • Author: Angana
    Three Texas teens hope to make a break for it and escape their dead-end existence in a cotton-mill town but get sucked into the seedy underbelly of organized crime when one of them steals from the wrong man.

    The general plot of this is pretty good, and fans of crime or heist movies will probably dig it. There is a really cool scene with the heist run-through that really makes the film for me, and if nothing else, solidified this as a better-than-average movie.

    What are we to make of the "32 ways to tell a story" theme? Is that a hint of how we should interpret this plot? It seems like yes, but exactly what we are to take away from it remains unclear. Perhaps a second viewing is in order?
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    • Author: Ironfire
    Bad Turn Worse is a crime thriller done without big budget, but still manages to entertain. It presents good script, murky atmosphere of rural town and fresh partially ironic take on crime drama. The movie is not without flaws though, the pacing might suffer at times and despite some good twist the characters fall into stereotypical teen early on.

    This is a story of three teenagers who live in Texas dusty town. One of them decides to steal from the mob, a poorly made decisions that drag all of them into gradually escalating situation. It's a bit slow to build-up on first act as the teens only exchange banters. The plot takes speed after a while, although it's still marred on a couple of scenes.

    The premise is seemingly simple, yet the script is smart and it delivers nice twists in timely manner . Acting is good for the three leads, they look juvenile, desperately determined and wanting promise of better life. The chemistry works by meshing these bored boorish characters together in much more adult condition than they are supposed to have.

    What set apart this movie from mediocrity is the occasional moments of fresh delivery amidst its bleak visual. Several of the scenes are interestingly done, a bit self-aware, surprisingly bloody and a very reminisces of classic pulp fiction.

    Having many genre familiarities, it can be a bit stereotypical and the display of boredom might be stagnant, but with its fine performance and good material, Bad Turn Worse is an engaging human and crime drama.
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    • Author: Shaktit
    Saw this 2 years ago and decided to rewatch it today.

    I literally remembered nothing about it except that I found it underwhelming but passable as a time-waster.

    Rewatching it today unfortunately I ended up focusing on the wrong things, like for instance the acting which was subpar for the morepart. Mark Pellegrino is an alright baddie but the youngsters in the lead didn't really impress.

    Especially Jeremy Allen White who had a constant blank face in every scene even in the most intense life-threatening ones and we are supposed to root for him after all which is hard when even he doesn't show signs of caring.

    But he's young and I'm sure he'll do better in other things.

    The pace doesn't help either as it highlights the flaws more than anything else.

    So yeah definitely not a movie you end up watching over and over again, I know 2 times is more than enough in fact I should have stuck at 1.
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    • Author: Uste
    They say that the friends you make in school will be your friends for life. The film Bad Turn Worse explores these bonds and shows just how tight they can be. B.J. (Logan Huffman) is your typical Texas High School senior, who is more concerned with meeting the right people, and getting a good job, then he is about going to college, which present a problem in regards to his best friend and girlfriend, who are both headed towards university. B.J. wants to leave his friends on a high note, and decides in order to accomplish this, he needs to "borrow" some money from his shady boss. What B.J. doesn't know is just how connected his boss really is, and once it's discovered that he took the money, his life, and the lives of his two closest friends end up being in jeopardy. Logan Huffman stars and fails to follow up on the success he had in his debut film, Underdogs. In that film, Huffman looked like he would be the next big thing in Hollywood, but playing a dim-witted character in a somewhat anti-climatic story didn't do him any favors. He is paired with Jeremy Allan White, better known as Lip, in the hit series Shameless. I was hoping to see him open up and show some range with this role, but the truth is he was just playing the same character, a highly intelligent young adult who makes poor choices. As far as the story goes, it was pretty interesting, but there are too many breaks in the main story, which distract you from the big picture. There is a lot of discussion and strains on the groups friendship, which pop up at the absolute worse times and pretty much stop the film dead in it's tracks. Bad Turn Worse really did feature a pretty good story, with a ton of up and coming young Hollywood talent. It's very appealing in many ways, but also disappointing in others.
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    • Author: DrayLOVE
    I have seen many coming-of-age films over the years, including the great 1971 film The Last Picture Show, which was set in a dead-end Texas town, but Bad Turn Worse took a familiar formula and not only executed it extremely well, but found a way to give it enough humor and relish that it was not predictable or formulaic.

    As a filmmaker myself, I very much appreciate the meticulously of the directing, editing, and integration of the music into the story, and the kinds of performances crafted for and by all the actors. I particularly enjoyed the energy and sadism of Mark Pellegrino as Giff, and the scene between Bobby and the Sheriff, who is trying to explain the reality of law enforcement in his town without ever being explicit. Zee and Simon Hawkins' as director and editor respectively are a great team, and I look forward enthusiastically to their future film projects.
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    • Author: Yar
    Excellent thriller!! The characters and their relationships are well developed. You immediately take an interest in their lives and want to know more. The actors did a tremendous job at portraying their characters. There is a good balance in the different aspects of the storyline. The Texas setting is seamless; it is exactly what you would expect of this type of thriller and more. The Hawkins brothers waste no time diving straight into the action. It is refreshing. They grab your attention from the opening scene. There is just enough of a plot twist to keep you guessing. The cinematography is flawless and the Hawkins brothers add some visually appealing and unique. This is a must-see!
  • Cast overview, first billed only:
    Mackenzie Davis Mackenzie Davis - Sue
    Logan Huffman Logan Huffman - B.J.
    Jeremy Allen White Jeremy Allen White - Bobby
    William Devane William Devane - Big Red
    Jon Gries Jon Gries - Sheriff Shep
    Mark Pellegrino Mark Pellegrino - Giff
    Erasmo Martinez Erasmo Martinez - Ernesto
    Ashley Adams Ashley Adams - Girl At Bar #1
    Kelly Kimball Kelly Kimball - Bobby's Mother (as Kelly Kinstley Kimball)
    Ty Adams Ty Adams - B.J.'s Little Brother
    'Big Boo' Brett Mitchell 'Big Boo' Brett Mitchell - Tractor Mechanic
    Raul Gonzales Raul Gonzales - Tractor Mechanic
    C.R. Marsh C.R. Marsh - Norm Wolfson (as C.R. 'Stubby' Marsh)
    Joyce Marsh Joyce Marsh - Nelma Wolfson (as Joyce 'Meme' Marsh)
    Debie Duprie Debie Duprie - Real Estate Agent
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